Rescoring Credit Reports, What You Need to Know

Posted by JohnUlzheimer | Credit Card Blog | Tuesday 3 August 2010 9:00 am

John Ulzheimer talks about rapid rescoring on the Willis Report on Fox Business:

For those of you who don’t fully understand the mortgage underwriting process, welcome to the club. It’s confusing, cumbersome and produces an enormous amount of paperwork. One thing we do know for certain is the importance of your credit scores in the process.

There was a time when almost anyone with a pulse could qualify for a mortgage. You could lie on your application and claim to make much more than you actually did. No wonder the environment was ripe for abuse. Thankfully, there are now laws on the books that prevent much of the shady dealing.

However, a part of the process that was not addressed by the CARD Act or the FinReg overhaul was the process called restoring. This process, also referred to as rapid update and rapid rescoring, is the act of having changes made to your credit reports in a very short amount of time, normally 48-72 hours, that would result in a higher credit score. The mortgage lender, using some sort of score optimization software, would suggest that you make certain changes to your credit reports, normally a payment on a credit card, and then have the credit report updated quickly to reflect the new balance. At this point a new score would be calculated, resulting in perhaps an approval or better interest rate.

This is deceptive to lenders because it creates a short term illusion that you’re a better credit risk. The changes to your credit report data were not made through your normal credit management practices. They were made for the sole intent on increasing your credit score so that you could get approved for a loan, and the mortgage lender could get their commission. What’s the difference between two consumers both scoring 700? Well, one might have earned it the old fashioned way, by being a pretty good credit manager. And the other could have paid off a few credit cards and increased their 615 from only a few days prior.

The question is how are those two consumers going to perform going forward? The 615 will likely return to his credit usage ways and see his score quickly snap back to the low 600s. And the 700 will likely maintain his or her credit management practices and stay around the 700 mark. The bottom line is that the lender was duped and priced out both loans as if they were equally risky, while anyone who is intellectually honest would have to acknowledge that they certainly are not. But who cares? It’s not my money, right?


John Ulzheimer – Credit scoring and credit reporting expert and author, John is the President of Consumer Education for Credit.com. Formerly with Equifax and Fair Isaac, John shares his unique insight of the inner workings of credit scoring models and the credit reporting industry on CreditBloggers.com.

New Report Shows 35% of Consumers Have FICO Scores Below 650

Posted by JohnUlzheimer | Credit Card Blog | Thursday 15 July 2010 3:33 am


Earlier this week FICO released data on score movement changes since the recession began. Essentially they’re the most significant score changes in nearly 2 decades.  More people score below 600 (25.5%) than ever before.  And, more importantly, more people score below 650 (35%) than ever before.  Here's my take on the data and what it means to consumers:

  1. There are two reasons why scores would have migrated toward the lower end of the scoring scale; negative information hitting a credit report or a run up of credit card debt. This means that more and more consumers are feeling the hit because of credit card defaults, mortgage defaults and repossessions. And those who have lost their jobs are depending more heavily on credit cards to make ends meet.  This is bad news because it's clearly not sustainable. 

  2. The news is actually worse for those who now score below 650 than those who score below 600. The percentage of people who score below 600 shouldn't be a focal point because those folks aren't even close to being approved for loans in today's credit world.  650 is a more realistic focal point and the percentage of people who now score below that score mark is 35%, which means that more than one-third of the U.S population is not credit-worthy for anything other than a subprime credit card or a subprime loan.  This is a big deal.

  3. What this means is fewer people will apply for new loans because they either won't be able to afford the payments, won't get approved or won't want to pay higher rates.  

  4. It also means more people will pay more for homeowner's and auto insurance because insurance companies generally use credit scores to help them set premiums.

  5. More bad news: Scores this low (<650) are generally not actionable, meaning they take a very long time to improve because the negative info that's causing the lower score stays on file for 7 years. So, if we're expecting these 35% who have FICO <650 to participate in any sort of large scale economic recovery – good luck.

John Ulzheimer – Credit scoring and credit reporting expert and author, John is the President of Consumer Education for Credit.com. Formerly with Equifax and Fair Isaac, John shares his unique insight of the inner workings of credit scoring models and the credit reporting industry on CreditBloggers.com.

Don’t Furnish That House Just Before Closing

Posted by credit.com | Credit Card Blog | Monday 7 June 2010 12:47 pm

IStock_000003866174XSmall As part of Fannie Mae's loan quality initiatives, consumers could see their credit reports pulled and scores recalculated a second time just before closing. The idea is to close the credit reporting gap between the date the initial credit reports were pulled and the date of the actual closing, which could be well over a month. Fannie wants to know if you've taken on any new debt, which wasn't disclosed on the first set of credit reports. New debt can change your debt to income ratio so that it becomes unacceptable.

Fannie Mae would also likely take into account any adverse changes to the credit reports and FICO scores caused by new inquiries, new accounts or new debt. And, don’t think it’s just new accounts they’re looking for. If you’ve charged a large purchase on your existing credit card, that’s also going to cause alarms to go off.

The good news is that any credit card debt that has been paid off within the past month would likely be reflected on your credit reports and taken into account in your scores, which could actually lead to higher scores the second time around. Now, whether or not your loan terms would be improved thanks to the second set of data is yet to be determined. It’s certainly much easier to just kill a deal because of degradation in your credit than it is to sweeten the deal because of an improvement.

One thing is for certain, the credit bureaus and FICO should be very pleased with this initiative. This likely means more credit reports and scores would be purchased, twice as many as in the past. And FICO and credit bureau revenue is largely a “units x price = revenue” model. This will certainly increase the units variable.

John Ulzheimer – Credit scoring and credit reporting expert and author, John is the President of Consumer Education for Credit.com. Formerly with Equifax and Fair Isaac, John shares his unique insight of the inner workings of credit scoring models and the credit reporting industry on CreditBloggers.com.

Credit Score Recovery Time from Foreclosures and Short Sales

Posted by JohnUlzheimer | Credit Card Blog | Wednesday 24 March 2010 1:05 pm

What's now a million-dollar question was only a 25-cent question yesterday, because everyone already knew the answer: How long does it take for your credit scores to recover from a short sale or a foreclosure? Years, right? These incidents remain on your credit reports for seven years and short sales are reported as either charge-offs or settlements. Those two events, as well as foreclosures, are all seriously negative and could significantly damage your credit scores for many years.

So why has this suddenly become a topic of debate, discussion, and conflicting answers? Because in March 23rd’s American Banker, Barrett Burns, the CEO of credit score provider VantageScore Solutions claimed, "...it can take borrowers as little as nine months to repair their credit score after a short sale or foreclosure."

Wow, that’s great news! Or is it? I found this difficult to believe, so I interviewed Craig Watts from FICO – credit score inventor, and VantageScore’s prime competition – to get the company’s input on how long it takes to repair your credit scores after such an event. Here’s the full transcript of my interview, unedited.

Ulzheimer: Is FICO willing to go on the record discussing the impact of a foreclosure and/or a short sale on a consumer’s credit score?

Watts: "FICO has consistently found that past payment history is the single most predictive category of information when we empirically develop credit scoring models using consumer credit histories. As an example, we recently looked at a sample of about 10 million credit reports representing a highly diverse U.S. population. We examined that group's most recent, twelve-month performance window. We found a default rate of 2.9% for the subset of all consumers with a clean credit record, and a default rate of 49% for the subset of all consumers who had had a recent foreclosure. In other words, consumers who recently experienced a foreclosure were about 17 times more likely to default on a credit obligation in the next 12 months than were people with a clean credit record. Obviously, recent credit defaults are vitally important when one is objectively assessing default risk."

Ulzheimer: How long does it take for a consumer’s score to recover after a short sale or foreclosure? And by recover, I mean fully recover.

Watts: "A consumer with a foreclosure or similar default on her credit report can expect her score to begin recovering after a couple of years if she consistently pays all her bills on time, keeps any credit card balances low, and takes on new credit only when needed. As the default event ages on her credit report its influence on her score will diminish, until the credit bureau removes the record from her file after seven years."

The bottom line is this: You can't fully repair your credit score in as little as nine months unless you can convince the credit bureaus to remove the items from your credit reports. And as long as the items are accurate they will remain for seven years. Your scores will begin to recover in time as the item gets older and older and loses predictive value, but unfortunately it won’t happen after only nine months.

John Ulzheimer – Credit scoring and credit reporting expert and author, John is the President of Consumer Education for Credit.com. Formerly with Equifax and Fair Isaac, John shares his unique insight of the inner workings of credit scoring models and the credit reporting industry on CreditBloggers.com.

More FICO Mythbusters

Posted by JohnUlzheimer | Credit Card Blog | Monday 25 January 2010 11:37 am

When I started at FICO in 1997, the company was going through a growth spurt. Most notably was the increase of FICO® score usage by mortgage lenders thanks, in part, to the adoption of FICO® scoring by mortgage industry giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Many mortgage industry players will tell you that Fannie and Freddie force-fed FICO scores to the industry, and they’re not entirely wrong about that.

Now that we're a good 12+ years into the mortgage industry's use of FICO scoring for underwriting, there still seems to be some misunderstandings about the tool. So in this edition of FICO Mythbusters we'll dedicate some digital ink to clearing up circa-1997 misunderstandings.

1. Income Matters – Nope, not in your FICO score. Remember that the FICO score is a CREDIT BUREAU-based scoring model. This means that it can only take into account what’s on your credit reports – and income isn’t. Income was being purged from credit reports when I started in the credit industry in the early '90s, and it hasn’t reappeared since. So whether you make $1,000,000 or $15,000, there’s no direct influence on your FICO scores. Those that complain about this assume, incorrectly, that capacity equal credit worthiness.

2. Risk-Based Lending is Unfair – …because it makes credit for higher-risk borrowers more expensive or unattainable. Duh! Lending is not a charitable event. Lenders have to make money or, well, they don’t need to be lenders. The following statement will eliminate me from any future presidential ambitions: nobody deserves credit. Credit is not a right. Credit is an earned privilege. Those who don’t pay their bills on time don’t deserve the same "cost" for their credit as someone who does. Complaining about this is a waste of time.

3. "Honest Mistake" Late Payments Shouldn’t Hurt Your ScoresReally? And why shouldn't they? Where in your closing documents or promissory note does it allow you to "honestly" not pay your bills on time? I'll save you the research time; it’s not there. Put yourself in the lender’s shoes just for a moment and pretend that the $250,000 home loan came out of your pocket. Would you really care why the payment isn’t being made on time? If you do, then you should not be in lender.

4. There is Such a Thing as a "Co-signer for Credit Only" – There is a very interesting lawsuit working its way through the court system in Georgia where a co-signer is suing a lender because the other co-signer stopped making payments on a car loan. Follow me… two people co-sign an application for a boat loan. The two people break up and one moves to Arkansas, with the boat. He stops making the payments because he lost his job. The other co-signer refuses to make the payments because, well, she can’t use the boat. Lender repossesses the boat, sells it at auction, sues both co-signers for the deficiency balance, and reports it to both of their credit reports and their FICO scores go down. Co-signer, sans boat, sues the lender because she claims that she was a "co-signer for credit only" and shouldn’t be liable for the payments. I love it. Now we’re creating new industry terminology because we don’t read our loan documents. This isn’t a joke; someone is actually making that argument and clogging the Georgia court system with this ridiculous lawsuit.

The silver lining of the credit meltdown, I hope, is that people will actually take time to learn more about the system rather than just complain about it. Complaining about something without offering a reasonable alternative is just that – complaining – and nobody wants to hear it. Complaining about something and having your facts wrong is just that – complaining – and nobody wants to hear it. Complaining about something, having your facts straight, and offering a reasonable alternative isn’t complaining; it’s innovation.

John Ulzheimer – Credit scoring and credit reporting expert and author, John is the President of Consumer Education for Credit.com. Formerly with Equifax and Fair Isaac, John shares his unique insight of the inner workings of credit scoring models and the credit reporting industry on CreditBloggers.com.

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